Riforma Gelmini

mattodalegare · Inviato: Sab Nov 08, 2008 1:00 pm Oggetto:

non è che lo proporrà, ma seguendo l'impostazione della legge così come è stata scritta non nega in alcun modo questa possibilità che è appunto oltraggiosa e dovrebbe essere esplicitamente impedita....io ormai di chi fa politica in generale preferisco pensare il peggio e sbagliarmi che pensare il meglio e prenderlo nel c**o asd

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f34r · Inviato: Sab Nov 08, 2008 7:23 pm Oggetto:

si vabè, ok tutelarsi, ma ci sono delle cose che non starebbero manco in piedi.. una di queste, e secondo me è universalmente riconosciuto, è che questi corsi siano al livello dell'apartheid... bon, vabè cheers

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no f34r no p41n

mattodalegare · Inviato: Sab Nov 08, 2008 8:08 pm Oggetto:

comunque sia io ora come ora non posso permettermi di mancare troppe lezioni unversitarie, dunque condivido il dissenso ma non manifesto perchè ora come ora un istruzione è la cosa piu importante da avere e sebbene sia per quello che molti scioperanti partecipano, io ho le mani occupate da una dozzina di esami piu ci saranno i laboratori e il tirocinio per non parlare della tesi, ho molto lavoro da fare... Sad

tant'è che la legge è passata, ormai...

oh be beviamoci su cheers

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per quanto riguarda i professori inutili ci sono, ma non verranno granchè colpiti dagli effetti della legge...i baroni non verranno probabilmente nemmeno sfiorati, verranno solo ingigantite le code gia decennali per i precari..... Sad

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-BlIzArD- · Inviato: Sab Nov 08, 2008 9:32 pm Oggetto:

The Entertainer · Inviato: Dom Nov 09, 2008 1:12 pm Oggetto:

Sl]{ · Inviato: Dom Nov 09, 2008 2:18 pm Oggetto:

In effetti con la frase di Berlusconi la stanno tirando un po' troppo per le lunghe,tempo fa aveva detto davanti a bush che la bandiera americana non era solo una bandiera ma simbolo di libertà e democrazia e quella era una cazzata ancora peggiore
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The Entertainer · Inviato: Dom Nov 09, 2008 3:42 pm Oggetto:

già... in effetti... il novello capitan america... lol

P.s. giusto per riprendere i "precedenti di silvio" del mio post precedente, ecco un articolo su wikipedia:

Jokes, gestures and blunders

Berlusconi's utterings have sometimes been insensitive in the extreme. Less than a month after the events of 9/11, he was quoted as saying that Western civilisation was superior to Islamic civilisation, because it had "guaranteed well-being, respect for human rights and - in contrast with Islamic countries - respect for religious and political rights". He soon retracted these comments after a storm of protest from politicians in his own country and abroad, calling Islam a "great" religion.[64]

Berlusconi is notorious for his questionable sense of humour. In February 2002, at a European Union summit of foreign ministers, Berlusconi, who was present since the replacement of his previous foreign minister, Renato Ruggiero, had not yet been appointed, made a vulgar gesture (the "corna") behind the head of the Spanish foreign minister, Josep Piqué, intimating he was a cuckold during an official photo shoot. This is a common joke among Italian children, but many felt it was utterly out of place in an international meeting. He later explained that he "was just kidding", and was trying to create a relaxed atmosphere, that this sort of meeting was meant to "create friendship, cordiality, fondness and kind relationships" between the participants, and that he wanted to amuse a small group of Boy Scout bystanders.

On 2 July 2003, one day after taking over the rotating presidency of the EU Council of Ministers, he was heavily criticised by the German SPD Member of the European Parliament Martin Schulz because of his domestic policy and his alleged links to the Mafia. Berlusconi responded: "Mr Schulz, I know a movie producer in Italy who is making a movie about Nazi concentration camps. I suggest you play the role of a Kapo. You are perfect for the part!". Responding to the shoutings that then came from the Socialist MEP backbenchers, Berlusconi insisted that he was only joking, but soon after accused Martin Schulz and others leftish MEPs to be "bad-willing tourists of democracy". His comparisons with the Nazis caused a brief cooling of Italy's relationship with Germany.[citation needed]

In 2003, during an interview with Nicholas Farrell and Boris Johnson, then editor of The Spectator magazine, Berlusconi claimed that Mussolini "had been a benign dictator who did not murder opponents but sent them "on holiday"".[65]

In mid-May 2005, while opening the European Food Safety Authority in Parma (preferred over a Finnish location, after Berlusconi made an assertion of Finns "not knowing what prosciutto is"), Berlusconi claimed that he had to "dust off my playboy skills" with the Finnish president, Tarja Halonen, to convince her to locate the EFSA in Parma. This caused criticism from both Italy and Finland, with the Italian ambassador in Finland being summoned by the Finnish foreign minister.[66] A minister of his cabinet later 'explained' the comment by saying that "anyone who had seen a picture of Halonen must have been aware that he had been joking". Before that, speaking to a group of Wall Street traders, he listed a series of reasons to invest in Italy. The first of them was that "we have the most beautiful secretaries in the world". This resulted in uproar in Italy, where, for a day, female deputies in Parliament took part in a cross-party protest.[citation needed]

In March 2006, Berlusconi defended accusations he made that the "Communists used to eat children", by responding with claims that "... read the Black Book of Communism and you will discover that in the communist China of Mao, they did not eat children, but had them boiled to fertilise the fields". He later admitted, "It was questionable irony ... because this joke is questionable. But I did not know how to restrain myself." His political opponent, Romano Prodi, told the press, "The damage caused to Italy by an insult to 1.3 billion people is by all means a considerable one", and that Berlusconi's comments were "unthinkable". [67] Berlusconi replied by gifting 1000 copies of the Black Book of Communism during one of his election rallies.[citation needed]

On 4 April 2006, less than a week before the upcoming political elections in Italy, during a speech given at the National Chamber for Trade, Berlusconi stated that he holds "too high esteem of the Italians' intelligence to think that there are so many coglioni (literally "testicles", a vulgar term often used about people considered stupid) around voting against their interest". He later apologized for the "rude but effective language". [68]

At an awards dinner in January 2007, Berlusconi was quoted as saying, "If I wasn't already married, I would marry you right away," and "With you, I'd go anywhere" to Mara Carfagna, a representative of Forza Italia and former showgirl. These flirtatious comments prompted his wife Veronica to demand an apology in a front-page letter to the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, one of Berlusconi's rival publications. In a statement released through his political party, he begged for forgiveness and stated that he would "always protect [Veronica's] dignity."[69] Mara Carfagna is now serving under him as minister for Equal Opportunities. [70]

In the run up to the 2008 Italian general election, Berlusconi claimed that right-wing female politicians were better looking than their left-wing counterparts. Berlusconi was quoted as telling local media that the left had "no taste" in women. His remarks provoked an angry reaction from Italian centre-left parties, which accused him of being sexist. He promised to name at least four women in his cabinet if he was elected as prime minister for a third time. Berlusconi was quoted as saying that when he looked round parliament, he found that female politicians from the right were "more beautiful" and that "The left has no taste, even when it comes to women".[71]

Since the 2008 general election, Berlusconi has already begun to court controversy on the European level. He has publicly criticized the current composition of the Council of Ministers of the Spanish Government as being too 'pink' by virtue of the fact that it has (once the President of the Council, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, is counted) an equal number of men and women. He also stated that he doubted that such a composition would be possible in Italy given the "prevalence of men" in Italian politics. [72]

At a joint press-conference at Villa La Certosa (17 April 2008) in Sardinia with the Russian president Vladimir Putin, a Russian journalist, Natalia Melikova, put a question to Putin, asking him if he intended divorcing his wife and marrying Alina Kabaeva, an Olympic gold medalist and an MP in Russia. When his guest showed annoyance, Berlusconi intervened with a gesture toward the journalist that imitated a gunman shooting [73]. The journalist was reportedly reduced to tears. Putin denied rumours that he was to marry Kabaeva. A spokesman for Berlusconi tried to play down the shooting gesture. He said: "It was just a gesture, a playful gesture, in fact it was appreciated giving the technical time needed for a long and tedious Russian translation." Afterwards, Melikova said: "I saw Berlusconi's gesture and I know he has a reputation as being a joker. I hope there are no consequences." Vittorio Feltri, founder and editor of the right-wing newspaper Libero, argued that, giving the records in transparency that Russia scores, Berlusconi actually 'saved' Melikova's life by playing that gesture.[citation needed]

On 6 November 2008, two days after Barack Obama was elected the United States' first African-American president, Berlusconi commented on Obama's "suntan." [74]

"I will try to help relations between Russia and the United States where a new generation has come to power, and I don't see problems for Medvedev to establish good relations with Obama who is also handsome, young and suntanned,"[75] he said.

EDIT: per evitare ulteriori OT dovuti al caso "Berlusconi's jokes" ho aperto un altro topic... se vogliamo continuare a parlarne, continuiamo lì. cheers

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